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is the point of the spell? If it's

That makes sense. But then what is the point of the spell? If it's going to be made pretty mh useless, then why bother having it at all? I reallyan't see it ever being used in any situation at all. What would beool is if they made it a Holy Talent, and removed the healing debuff. Put it deep into the Holy tree so that Ret won't take it. Problem solved :) I really hate QQing, but I was really looking forward to the few new abilities for Holy. Infusion of Light was going to be fun to try a play with. Now, it seems more like a talent to sk :( Agh - I'm probably just over-reting.
Well, now its very useful for all builds soloing(bubble-divine pleabandage) and to ret and prot pallys in 5 mans and raids who need mana primarily for offense. ofourse, that doesn't count for it being a holy skill.... EDIT: though ofourse, as a buff, youan shed the efft at will, so if you were desperate, youould BoP the tank, fire divine plea,ael it at 7 s and heal. I dunno.
Tsardci wrote:Unfortunetly you're gettingaught in the ret-nerfrossfire. As of the last beta build, with judge of the wise giving 20% max mana with eah judgement, plus divine plea, ret paladinsould NEVER go oom. I know thats why Judge of the wise washanged, and probably why divine pleahanged, too, so the ret pallyan't be getting a huge amount of mana bk while tossing of instantast FoL spells, too. i don't think its this at all... have you seen how mh extra int we're getting at 80? if we gear like we're supposed to we won't have any. so base mana = max mana for ret. this isompletely and totally a holy mana effiey nerf. if any holy wanted to take JotW to have unlimited mana he stillan, but rather than 20% of 15k (3000 mana) every 8 sonds for about 1875 mp5 they now only get 33% base mana (i'llhk but i think its about 6k) for about 2000 mana or 1250 mp5. a ret pally putting on healing gear will feel this i suppose but otherwise ret got buffed and the nerfs were definitely dirted at holy. with the Divine Plea nerf making it useless for holy, holy will be more than ever driven to JotW in ret whh is now less useful than ever for holy (still ne... just less useful than before). just to help visualize why this isn't a ret nerf, before we'd have gotten 20% of 6k for 1.2k mana or 750 mp5 roughly. now its up to what i said for holy now - 1250mp5 equivelant. thats a 60% mp5 irease for ret. this is huge. iouldn't run out of mana before. now ianonsrate 100% and still not run out of mana. it definitely isementing my dision to level my sond 70 (ret pally) first and maybe possibly eventually get around to leveling my "holy" pally who will end up more a healingdps hybrid than a real healer... my biggestoern is that now a holy pally will likely be able to bring all the utility that ret was supposed to have. this proably won't be a problem, but if ret dps gets balaed any lower this will render ret pointless again. i don't think this will be thease, but it is a remote possibility madeoerning only bause of ret history.
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